Calls to unify against the fossil fuel industry

The Sustainable Hour no. 432 | Podcast notes

Guests in The Sustainable Hour no. 432 on 5 October 2022 are Yaraan Couzens Bundle, a Whale Dreaming Custodian campaigning against the fossil industry’s seismic blasting in the ocean, and Esteban Servat and Louise Wagner, both from Debt for Climate.

“We are putting our kids into a global school bus that will with 98 per cent probability end in a deadly crash.”
~ Hans Joachim Schellnhuber, German climate scientist

Yaraan Couzens Bundle is a proud Gunditjmara mother of three, and a Whale Dreaming Custodian and Cultural Knowledge Holder. Yarran continues our series on the importance of listening to the First Australians as we chart our course through the climate emergency. She adds to our developing understanding of what ‘Country’ means to First Nations people as she explains the deep spiritual connection she has to her Gunditjmara Country which includes the Sea Country off its shores. This Country isn’t something she owns, rather it is something that is an intrinsic part of her and her life, something that she has a responsibility to protect.

With the awesome responsibilities of Whale Dreaming Custodian as well as Cultural Knowledge Holder, Yaraan doesn’t take these responsibilities lightly. They are the reason why she is so against the toxic seismic blasting that is proposed for the country she is part of. These links are for people who want to find out more about the work which Yaraan has devoted her life to:

On the DrillWatch website you can add your name to the Citizens Protection Declaration.

On Friends of the Earth Melbourne’s website you can learn more about the protection of the whales.

You can follow SOPEC in their Facebook group.

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Co-founder Esteban Servat and organiser Louise Wagner from Debt for Climate talk about their quest to unite the world against the industries and organisations that are essentially driving us to destruction. This quest is gaining momentum in the lead up to COP27 in Egypt plus a couple of other important international meetings.

Their main plank is that the global north gained much of their riches from exploiting the global south and hence owe them. This at a time when many global south countries are being crippled by rate high interest debt repayments, as we heard from Sri Lanka a few weeks ago. Servat and Wagner argue that these repayments aren’t allowing people to develop their countries and relieve their poverty.

The Debt for Climate initiative is particularly exciting because it comes out of the global south. Esteban is a long time social justice and anti-fracking activist from Argentina who is currently living in exile in Berlin.

Debt for Climate is something we are going to hear much more about. We will be doing all that we can to actively promote it in our global region and will be organising zoom chats on it. To find out more about it go to

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We start this week’s show with the clip we often use from the head of the United Nations Antonio Guterres as he tries to get the world to realise the enormity of the climate emergency we are facing.

We play a mock Chevron Ad which American film director Adam McKay posted on his Twitter account, and which has had almost 200,000 replies and over 5 million views. It comes with a language warning for these sensitive to such.

We also hear Mik Aidt read this Twitter post from Edgar McGregor:

“The fossil fuel industry’s greatest nightmare is not a perfect climate activist with an amazing track record. Their nightmare is every day people left and right standing up for the planet. Their greatest worry is that we’ll unify against them. And so that is what we must do.”
~ Edgar McGregor, climatology senior

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Colin Mockett‘s Global Outlook this week begins in the United Kingdom, where it was announced that King Charles III will not be attending the COP 27 Climate Change summit in Egypt next month. This goes against expectations, as he’d previously indicated that he would go. He has been fighting for the environment for the past 50 years. But that was before his mother died and he got the (so-called) top job. As the Prince of Wales and heir to the throne, he had a degree of freedom that the Monarch doesn’t have. Under the British system, he has to do as he is told by the Prime Minister, and new PM Liz Truss has already announced that she won’t be going to Egypt for the conference, preferring to concentrate in getting Britain through the forthcoming winter against a background of energy shortages caused by Putin’s war and a range of Brexit-related problems. There has even been talk in the press of Britain rolling back some of the commitments it made in Glasgow at COP 26. We shall watch and see.

Then to Queensland, where premier Annastacia Palaszczuk announced a raft of carbon-reduction policies last week, only to see them rubbished by environmentalists at the weekend. The premier’s policies were called a $62 billion Queensland Energy and Jobs Plan that would aim for 70 per cent of Queensland’s energy supply from renewables by 2032 and 80 per cent by 2035. This would be achieved by two new pumped hydro projects by 2035, a new Queensland SuperGrid connecting solar, wind, battery and hydrogen generators across the state. This would unlock 22GW of new renewable capacity – giving eight times the current level. She announced publicly owned coal fired-power stations would convert to clean energy hubs to transition to, for example, hydrogen power, with jobs guarantees for workers – and stop the reliance on burning coal by 2035. The plans would bring 100,000 new jobs by 2040, most in regional Queensland. There would be 11.5GW of rooftop solar and 6GW of embedded batteries, and her government would build Queensland’s first hydrogen ready gas turbine. These projects were all subject to environmental approvals, she said.

After digesting these proposals for two days, Kim Hill from a group called Right2water Australia, announced a reply on social media. “Queensland is planning ecocide on a vast scale in the name of “climate solutions”. They want to build the largest pumped hydro scheme in the world, in order to increase current energy generation by eight times. This would mean river ecologies destroyed permanently, massive land clearing of native forests for dams, power lines, and wind and solar farms, and a huge expansion of mining. We need to organise a resistance movement to make sure this scheme doesn’t go ahead,” Kim said. “In this time of ongoing ecological annihilation, we need to be rapidly reducing our society’s energy use, not expanding it.”

Meanwhile the Saturday Paper ran an article saying that the Australian Petroleum Production and Exploration Association (APPEA) has called for special treatment from the new Federal government. This was because of Labor’s plan aims to reduce the emissions of the nation’s largest industrial emitters by up to 6 per cent per year. APPEA has asked for the July 2023 start date to be pushed back, a reassessment of greenhouse gas emission targets and for reductions to be based on emissions intensity, not absolute values. The lobby group wants the sector to be able to purchase international carbon offsets in lieu of reducing emissions, including for new oil and gas projects.

Following this, the independent energy advisory firm RepuTex warned the free credits would lock in fossil fuel production and The Environmental Defenders Organisation also made a submission, calling for no international offsets, and The Investor Group on Climate Change warned the revamp of the nation’s safeguard mechanisms must not shield coal and gas. To summarise all this in a single sentence, the multinational fossil fuel industry is not going to play ball with the government’s plans to reduce carbon emissions to 43 per cent by 2030 – and there is a big-money shit-fight brewing in Canberra.

There’s no good news from Forest Green Rovers this week either. The bad luck continues for the world’s only carbon-neutral sports club. At the weekend, the Rovers lost 3 – 2 against Burton Albion, with the winning goal scored one minute after the game had officially ended, during time added on for stoppages.

Our good news comes this week from Victoria, where it was announced that the government is giving a degree of support to retailers who will have to take all single-use plastics off their shelves from 1 February 2023. Yes, there’s only six months left for plastic cutlery, polystyrene cups, cotton buds, and non-compostable drinking straws and a whole range of purpose-made long-lasting litter. Against the government’s plan to help retailers with surplus stocks, environmental groups have urged their members to report anybody still selling or using the banned plastic. So remember the date, 1st of February next year, when our state should potentially get a little bit cleaner.

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Also, don’t forget about the important events which are happening locally in the Geelong region. Among them: Extinction Rebellion Geelong’s beach party on Saturday at 11am, and over night next Wednesday, also in Geelong, people of faith uniting – can the rest of us do the same? so we can close down the fossil fuel industry as soon as possible. Read more about the Night Vigil against new oil and gas in Geelong here:

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That’s all we could fit into this week’s show – we hope you can feel like us that the whole world is closing in on the fossil fuel psychopaths who have been blinded by their greed.

The obscene profits they have made for over five decades is one of the major reasons why we are currently on the path to the destruction of everything we value. This realisation has forced more and more people to become active in the climate revolution we have been actively promoting since we started almost 10 years ago.

Yaraan, Esteban and Louise plus many others are leading the way to the safer, more just, inclusive, peaceful and healthy world we so often refer to. We’ll be back next week with more as this momentum rapidly grows. Be the difference!
~ Anthony Gleeson

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“We must stand up together, side by side, against the deadly and corrupt fossil fuel industry. We must now renew humanity’s sense of purpose. We must leave arrogance and embrace humility. We must renew our relationships with each other and with the rest of life on Earth.”
~ Peter Kalmus, NASA climate scientist, on Twitter

“For children to worry less, we need adults to worry more.”
~ Luisa Neubauer, German climate justice activist

“We will all, sooner or later, be badly affected by climate change and nature destruction, and we will all, eventually, get serious about them. But if we leave it till then it will be too late.”
~ Charlie J. Gardner, writer and researcher

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We at The Sustainable Hour would like to pay our respect to the traditional custodians of the land on which we
are broadcasting, the Wathaurong People, and pay our respect to their elders, past, present and future.

The traditional owners lived in harmony with the land. They nurtured it and thrived in often harsh conditions for millenia before they were invaded. Their land was then stolen from them – it wasn’t ceeded. It is becoming more and more obvious that, if we are to survive the climate emergency we are facing, we have much to learn from their land management practices.

Our battle for climate justice won’t be won until our First Nations brothers and sisters have their true justice. When we talk about the future, it means extending our respect to those children not yet born, the generations of the future – remembering the old saying that, “We do not inherit the Earth from our ancestors. We borrow it from our children.”
The decisions currently being made around Australia to ignore the climate emergency are being made by those who won’t be around by the time the worst effects hit home. How disrespectful and unfair is that?

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The ‘Seismic Secret’ video is no longer available – it has been removed by the uploader.
This video about seismic blasting is from the United States, but tells a similar story.

Seismic Blasting Joint Statement

14 organisations stand united in opposition to TGS and Schlumberger’s proposal to conduct 3D seismic blasting over an area larger than the state of Tasmania, some 7.7 million hectares of marine environment between Victoria, Tasmania and South Australia.

→ Read the statement on Friends of the Earth Melbourne’s website – also posted on the Wilderness Society’s website

→ Sign the Parliament Petition here: Petition EN4404 – Stop Seismic Testing in Australian Waters
Ends on 13 October 2022

New edition of Chain Reaction magazine:
About extractivism and post-extractivism

This edition of Friends of the Earth Australia’s magazine Chain Reaction takes “a hard-hitting look at our culture’s extractivist mindset and the ways this pervades corporations’ “greenwashing”, NGO culture and perhaps even our activist goals.”

Read it online here (PDF, 44 pages)

From the article in Chain Reaction #143 by Aia Newport: ‘Possible mindsets for post-extractive futures’

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→ Nation of Change – 23 September 2022:
The climate movement was built for a world before climate change—it’s time for a new approach
“We need a mass movement that can deal with climate disasters by training people to both protect and mobilize their communities.”

→ Green European Journal – 19 october 2022:
The Colonial Roots of Present Crises
“Looking around at the energy crisis, the drift to the extreme right and the mounting climate disasters that the world is facing, the common thread of colonial exploitation may not be obvious. On the sidelines of the Ecopolis festival, we spoke to acclaimed writer Amitav Ghosh who offered a historical perspective on world events from the Pakistan floods to the war in Ukraine and the challenges ahead for green and progressive forces.”

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Fossils resisting the shift

Dark humour and satire at its acidic best comes via a mock Chevron Ad.
It comes with a language warning for these sensitive to such.

→ This cartoon on Instagram

$9,134,000,000,000 in annual fossil subsidies

An IMF senior fiscal analyst has estimated the global fossil fuel industry is subsidised to the tune of around AUS$9.1 trillion every year – and if fossil fuel prices were reformed, global carbon dioxide emissions would be reduced by 36 per cent in 2025.

To understand what one trillion is, imagine seeing the figures on a time line: a million seconds ago is about a week and a half: 11 days. Compare that with a billion seconds, which is more than 31 years. And a trillion seconds is more than 31,000 years. 

In other words: Imagine you had spent the last ten years to save up a million seconds. That would add up to 11 days. In that same period you would as tax payer – together with the rest of the world’s taxpayers – have been giving the fossil fuel companies a free ride of 2,830,000 years.

→ ABC News – 30 September 2022:
What does government support for fossil fuel subsidies cost our economy and environment?

“Three key things EVERYONE needs to know:
1. This is still just merest beginnings of climate breakdown
2. It’s irreversible, best we can do is halt it at whatever level it gets to
3. It’s caused by the fossil fuel industry, which has been lying and blocking action for decades”

~ Peter Kalmus, American climate scientist

→ Crikey – 10 October 2022:
Santos chief’s new climate scam: a fossil fuel-driven zero carbon future
“Fossil fuel company Santos continues to spruik carbon capture and storage. And the technology continues to fail.”

Our Changing Climate: How the Rich REALLY Cause Climate Change

Medium – 4 October 2022:
We’re shaming the wrong polluters again
“People will not consume less to stop climate change — maybe they don’t have to…”

“Oil and gas exploration good for the environment,” according to the British climate minister. Yes, they really think you are this stupid.

“Every single person should have a white-hot rage aimed at the fossil fuel industry.”

“I think very few people have so far accepted the real stakes of the climate emergency: that we risk losing everything and that the damage is irreversible. This includes most journalists.

I think this is the reason why most articles on climate change do not present the topic from the perspective that we risk losing nearly everything and that the damage is irreversible. If you haven’t not accepted this real possibility, you can’t write from that perspective.

And this in turn is why it’s still possible to read most climate articles and have a psychological “out” that it’s “just another issue” that we can solve with more EVs and other non-life-changing “solutions.” In this way the collective denial is self-sustaining.

It’s like a society-wide bystander effect. Analogy: there’s a burning house, but everyone is walking right past it and the firefighters are relaxed and chatting outside. No one’s doing anything. How would you react? “It must be some training or something. Not a real emergency”

This effect can be extremely strong. Even if there were a person screaming from the second story, you’d probably assume it was all part of the training. “She must be there to make it seem more realistic.”

We are incredibly social creatures, constantly sussing out each others’ reactions to inform our own. This absolutely applies to the case of Earth breakdown. I can’t tell you how insanely weird it is to see what’s happening, so clearly, but to see such a muted social response

Most articles about climate disasters, even if they do mention climate change (and a lot do now, which is a big improvement), don’t “connect the dots” to the fossil fuel industry and what is coming in the near future if we stay on this insane course of expanding that industry.

We now have to make such huge changes as a society to halt global heating and the climate breakdown it is causing, that I think we will only do so if we switch into what I call “emergency mode” as a society. And this entails a LOT of people snapping out of this bystander effect.

I am not warning that we are on a bad path here as a “doomer,” I am doing it in an attempt to help snap society out of this collective denial, so that we can halt global heating and stop the irreversible damage, and save lives and ecosystems. The very opposite of “doomer”

Also this is why I think civil disobedience, especially from scientists, works so well. Unfortunately, like it or not climate scientists are uncomfortably like the firefighters in the burning house analogy. But so are climate journalists.

Most scientists and journalists are deeply uncomfortable with this role. I personally am. But I sought it out anyway because I feel a profound responsibility to sound the alarm, knowing what I know. But let me be clear: I hate being the Cassandra and pay a very high price

In many ways, the science is simple. Burn fossil fuel, carbon combines with oxygen, the CO2 traps outgoing infrared radiation, heating up the planet. Fine. But extrapolating from that, to what will come in the near-future if we stay on this course, is not simple.

It’s not even simple for climate scientists. I’ve chosen to devote my career to delving into sub-parts of this subfield. But these are insanely complex and interconnected systems of Earth, ecology, and human society. Very hard to say how things will unravel or precisely when.

But in my opinion, and in the opinion of many other scientists, the risks, though uncertain, are unambiguously catastrophic. And this is being borne out in real time by this shocking array of climate disasters, coming one after another all summer long.

But in my opinion, and in the opinion of many other scientists, the risks, though uncertain, are unambiguously catastrophic. And this is being borne out in real time by this shocking array of climate disasters, coming one after another all summer long.

What terrifies me is that all these disasters are getting worse, and physics guarantees they’ll keep getting worse so long as we burn fossil fuels. Increasingly they are impacting our water and food systems. This has already progressed far in the Global South.

Meanwhile, things still feel “normal” enough to most well-off, powerful, influential people in the Global North who have the power to shake society out of this collective denial, or bystander effect, if they chose to do so. They are not choosing to doing so.

But I think more food price increases, and other impacts, could be on the horizon, which will be very destabilizing to civil society and contribute to the rise of fascism, and general degradation of society.

I feel that there is still an immense amount of work to do to understand how this might play out. Until recently, it has basically been taboo event to mention the phrase “civilizational collapse” e.g. on twitter. That’s how much we’re not thinking about it.

To me it’s almost inconceivable at this point that we will end the fossil fuel industry in time to keep mean global heating under 1.5°C. Even the most basic action imaginable – a moratorium just on NEW fossil fuel projects – seems impossibly far away.

I think the fastest path to real action is probably to keep working to bring more people into the climate movement. Real action, btw, necessarily involves reducing the fossil fuel industry. Since the FF industry is the cause, after all.

Every single person who is not a fossil fuel executive should really, at this point, have a white-hot rage aimed at the fossil fuel industry. I say this because they’ve known they’d take down the planet for about 50 years. And they fucking CHOSE to do it. And they STILL ARE

because they still can. it’s up to us to make it so they can’t anymore. no one else is coming to save us.”

~ Twitter thread by Peter Kalmus, NASA climate scientist

Climate obstruction is an industry

Climate obstruction is not just an outcome, it’s also an industry. According to Naomi Oreskes there are over 8,000 firms, front groups and think tanks dedicated to blocking climate action.

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A Climate Poem: Big Oil’s Lies and How to Respond

By Ryan Hagen, founder of Crowdsourcing Sustainability

Humanity’s future has all but been sold
And this is the tale that needs to be told.

For decades we’ve been cheated, lied to, deceived
Kidnapped by a wealthy few’s infinite greed.

Big oil knew climate change was real as can be
They knew it’d harm folks, like you and me.

You see, as they raised their oil rigs to deal with future sea level rise
They were also spending billions to fill our heads with propaganda and lies.

So our world today still runs on fossil fuels
Because from the 80s til now, they’ve played us like fools.

Big oil fights against humanity to make their profit sky-rocket
And pays off politicians – stuffing them deep in their pocket.

They have them delay action and spread all their lies
And they’re all okay watching, as life on Earth dies.

They tell us it’s our fault and to change our individual actions
They turn us against each other – creating new factions.

But that is another lie – a white one at least
Because individual action alone can’t tackle this beast.

We must rise united, we must work together
To have any chance of making life on Earth better.

Still today, they have a stranglehold on humanity’s fate
But the story’s not over – it’s not too late.

Though it is high time we all face what’s gone wrong
For the lies, greed, and evil have ruled us too long.

So what can you do, you may want to ask
How could you possibly help with this daunting task?

Though it’s easy to feel unimportant or too small to act
That belief is just false – it’s simply a fact.

So enough with the thoughts that make you feel powerless
Because your help is sorely needed to get us out of this mess.

And I don’t care if you’re brand new to this or how green you are
If you want a livable future, we’re on the same team – it’s not a high bar.

Although there’s much to do, the solution is clear
So share it around – fill many an ear:

This moment demands we join forces and do all we can think of
To protect this place we call home – and the people we love.

In case you want to learn more about the fossil fuel industry’s predatory delay:

  • Drilled is a great podcast to check out: “Secret documents, psychological warfare, whistleblowers, media manipulation, this is a story that has it all. Join us as we uncover the mechanics of the longest-running and most elaborate propaganda campaign of the century—the creation and spread of climate change denial—and why it’s been so effective.”
  • This is an excellent comic detailing how big oil found out about global warming 60 years ago and what they’ve done to mislead the public and delay climate action ever since. And here’s a fantastic TEDx video version:

View media in original article

  • Inside Climate News (award-winning investigative journalism).
  • Also worth taking a look at the following people’s work if you’re interested in the disinformation campaigns and predatory delay: Amy Westervelt, Naomi Oreskes, Geoffrey Supran, Robert Brulle, and Ben Franta. As well as the US House of Representatives’ findings on their recent investigation into the fossil fuel industry’s disinformation.


Ryan Hagen

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Climate injustice

“A list of the 10 countries most affected by climate change-related extreme weather events during the first two decades of this century includes 8 former colonies.”

→ World Economic Forum – 9 September 2022:
What does colonialism have to do with climate change?
“Flooding in Pakistan has revived interest in the relationship between the colonial past and the present climate change crisis. A number of countries scarred by colonialism are now at a disadvantage in terms of dealing with the crisis. They’re also responsible for a relatively small portion of global emissions.”

Shareable – 15 September 2022:
The Green Transition Part 1: The Problem with Green Capitalism
“What is the dark side of the energy transition — particularly for the Global South and Indigenous communities?”

In this profoundly hopeful talk, Diné musician, scholar, and cultural historian Lyla June outlines a series of timeless human success stories focusing on Native American food and land management techniques and strategies. Lyla June is an Indigenous musician, scholar and community organizer of Diné (Navajo), Tsétsêhéstâhese (Cheyenne) and European lineages. Her dynamic, multi-genre presentation style has engaged audiences across the globe towards personal, collective and ecological healing. She blends studies in Human Ecology at Stanford, graduate work in Indigenous Pedagogy, and the traditional worldview she grew up with to inform her music, perspectives and solutions. Her current doctoral research focuses on Indigenous food systems revitalization.

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Building a mass movement

“While in the past we may have struggled to get people to care about climate politics because of dozens of other concerns and distractions, we now struggle to get people to care about climate politics because of the urgent threats that climate change is posing to their lives, livelihoods and homes. It’s hard to get people to sign petitions or show up to rallies when they’re stacking sandbags or packing go bags to flee a wildfire. 

Simply building up the capacity of communities to respond to climate impacts won’t be enough. Without more action from our governments, these crises are just going to get worse. Governments need to do more to stop global temperature rise and to prepare for the climate impacts we’ve already baked in. This means aggressive legislation to end fossil fuel use and a just transition for communities and workers. It also means expanding emergency services to deal with climate disasters and upgrading and rebuilding infrastructure to weather the storms to come. And, lastly, it means rethinking our approaches to migration — both within and across borders, as climate impacts forcibly relocate millions of people. 

As we’ve seen, none of this seems to be what our governments actually want to do. The limited wins we’ve seen on climate change have come from people organizing to force them to happen, and the next phase of wins won’t be any different.

That means we need to build a bridge between responding to ongoing climate impacts, preparing for future impacts and organizing to stop them from getting worse. In other words, we need to build movements that have the tangible, hands-on skills to protect their communities in the case of climate disasters, but can also turn around and mobilize those same communities to force the government to act. 

This bridge could be built on three pillars:
1. Preparation. 2. Local power. 3. A bigger, louder movement.”
~ Cam Fenton

Continue reading here:

→ Nation of Change – 23 September 2022:
The climate movement was built for a world before climate change—it’s time for a new approach
“We need a mass movement that can deal with climate disasters by training people to both protect and mobilize their communities.”

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Events we have talked about in The Sustainable Hour

Events in Victoria

The following is a collation of Victorian climate change events, activities, seminars, exhibitions, meetings and protests. Most are free, many ask for RSVP (which lets the organising group know how many to expect), some ask for donations to cover expenses, and a few require registration and fees. This calendar is provided as a free service by volunteers of the Victorian Climate Action Network. Information is as accurate as possible, but changes may occur.



List of running petitions where we encourage you to add your name

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