We need nothing less than a climate revolution, and that revolution begins in your head. Enter our new podcast series, The Climate Revolution.
Podcast content – in order of appearance
00:01 Sir David King: We have to move rapidly
00:12 Mark Carney, How We Get What We Value: We’ve been trading off the planet against profit
00:19 Sir David King: We are in a very very desperate situation
00:22 Alexandria Octavio-Cortez: Money alone will not save us
00:28 Roy Scranton, author of ‘We’re Doomed, Now What’: Climate change is bigger than World War II
00:55 William Moomaw: What it will take to achieve a safe climate
02:16 Greta Thunberg: If I can ask one thing of you, it would be to educate yourself
02:57 9News: United Nations calls on all governments to declare a climate emergency
03:08 Antonio Guterres: Call on all governments to declare a climate emergency
03:53 Mark Carney, How We Get What We Value: The sustainable revolution
04:12 Mik Aidt: This is the sound of the Climate Revolution
06:29 David Wallace-Wells: How we could change the planet’s climate future
17:46 United Nations and Emmanuel Macron: Make the planet great again
18:54 Johan Rockström, ABC On The Science Show: Fixing the climate emergency must start now
22:18 Jess Hamilton and Ash Berdebes: Heaps Better – podcast trailer
27:09 Michelle Maloney in Post Growth Australia Podcast: Reimagining an Earth centered economy
35:24 Melanie Scaife: End Game: “Everything you hold dear” – podcast excerpt
47:20 Bob Doppelt: From Me to We (excerpt from page 87)
52:43 Bob Doppelt: Sustainability and Resilience Require a Shift from Me to We
57:30 Amanda Gorman: Earthrise (excerpt of the poem)
00:00 Alex Aidt: Icecream (also at 25:09, 44:07)
02:56 Twin Musicom: A Dream Within A Dream
03:40 Wayne Jones: Resolution (also at 22:00, 23:18)
04:34 Pernilla Aidt: Blue Sky (also at 57:15)
05:26 New Oddyssey
26:39 Dan Henig: Nebular Focus
34:09 Dan Henig: Violet Spirit
38:41 Oleg Byonic: The Sting (also at 47:13, 55:25)
46:44 Dan Henig: Eternal Garden
A big thank you to the musicians for allowing us to use this music in the podcast.
If you think an hour-long podcast is too long for you, we recommend you think about it diffently. The overall idea with us doing these long podcasts (we’ve done 375 of them by now, and they are all one hour long) is that our listeners listen to them for instance when they are in transport – sitting in a car or train – and press the pause button in the podcast player when they reach their destination. And then press play and listen onwards next time they are back in transport. In other words, cut it up in smaller bits suitable to you. You, not we, decide where to make the breaks yourself. 😉
“I’d like to see a greater sense of global citizenship, not national citizenship. That is potentially where we need to go. Take the old leaders out of the way, and let some of those young people have a go.”
~ Admiral Chris Barrie, (Ret.), Former Chief of the Australian Defence Force, speaking at the RESET.21 seminar about the climate emergency, HOT, WET & VIOLENT
The climate revolution begins in your head
Science tells us time is running out. We just have a few years to get it right.
More than new tools, we need a new politics and a new economics, says David Wallace-Wells.
We need awareness and education, says Greta Thunberg. If solutions within the system are so impossible to find, then maybe we should change the system itself.”
Albert Einstein told us something similar in New York Times in 1946. “A new type of thinking is essential if mankind is to survive and move toward higher levels,” Einstein wrote. The world we have created is a product of our thinking, and it cannot be changed without changing our thinking.
The answer is that we need nothing less than a Climate Revolution. One that begins in your head.
The climate revolution is about enabling first ourselves, and then humanity, to scale up a new regenerative, Earth-centered, collaboration-focused thinking. A journey from ‘Me’ to ‘We’.
I have long considered whether it would be unwise to start campaigning for bolder climate action while using that term, ‘climate revolution’. The word revolution does have some historical connotations which might not be helpful.
But as we were doing The Sustainable Hour last week, I made a quick decision, inspired by a few phrases that flew out of me, and suddently the genie was out of the bottle: We lifted the ‘Climate Revolution’ into the headline for that podcast episode. And all of a sudden, we found ourselves no longer just whispering the word between ourselves. Now we are getting in gear to shout it out from the rooftops: “The Climate Revolution is happening, folks. Now, how will we be kickstarting the climate revolution in our little town?”
I guess you start the journey and become a “climate revolutionary” in spe already at that moment when you say to yourself: “This struggle for climate safety will be the defining battle of my life. And I feel really passionate about this.”
The days for “climate action” and walking in the streets with protest banners are over – now it is about what you do and how you vote. Not on some Friday afternoon every second month or so, or at the ballot box every third year or so, but every single day.
Find your barricade
An Earth-centered revolution is already taking place all over the planet. It is moving fast. If you try to get an overview, you’ll see that there are four main barricades, which people have started to build, and to climb:
The political and election-focused,
the agricultural and ecosystem focused, and
the personal and home-based.
But don’t try do do it all. Stick with one barricade, and stick with doing what you do best.
We don’t need more knowledge, more books, more solutions. We’ve got it all. What we need is to get together and do the work on the barricades. And for those of us who still don’t know how, we need training, education, inspiration. Seminars, conferences, coaching-sessions.
If you are already a climate leader, why not start organising a gettogether, a seminar, or a conference? Get your community, and in particular: your local business community, or the farmers where you live, to join you. Renew and revolutionise the langauge with the words you use.
Thinking of running as an independent candidate in the next election? Great! Here’s a place to get started and fired up:
Getting elected in Australia
The first national convention for community-minded independents
“Build community knowledge and share practical advice to get more independent, community-minded candidates in Australian politics.”
26 – 28 February 2021 • ONLINE
Hosted by Cathy McGowan, former Indi MP
CONNECT – Connect with likeminded community-independents and supporters to amplify your impact
PLAN – Learn and share campaigning skills and begin to plan your campaign
RUN – Take action! Run yourself – or support a winning election campaign
Registrations close Monday, 22 February 2021
→ Read more on www.communityindependents.com.au
Enter the arena of Australian politics
These are some of the climate-focused alliances and parties you can link up with and investigate further:
Independents CAN – Australia’s Climate Party
An alliance to overcome the electoral disadvantage faced by independent candidates, unified with shared values of integrity, fairness, climate action, sound economic management and national preparedness.
→ Home page: www.independentscan.com.au
→ Facebook: www.facebook.com/ICANAusPol
→ Email: email@example.com
Climate Emergency Action Alliance Party – previously Save the Planet Party
→ Home page: www.voteplanet.net
→ Facebook: www.facebook.com/voteplanet
→ Facebook: www.facebook.com/ClimateEmergencyActionAlliance
→ Email: firstname.lastname@example.org
Put Climate First Alliance
→ Home page: www.putclimatefirst.org
→ Facebook: www.facebook.com/putclimatefirst
→ Email: email@example.com
→ Stanthorpe Borderpost – 1 April 2021:
Labor comes clean on its policy on coal power
“Labor is now explicitly supporting coal in its official policy platform, after earlier criticism it was conspicuously absent. The Australian Workers’ Union and CFMEU pushed for the inclusion at the second day of the party’s national conference.”
Find your role: What kind of changemaker are you?
Buckle down for the long haul
“At this critical stage, we have to accept we’re all going to have to buckle down for the long haul. Responding to this crisis is going to have to become part of who we are. All the time. Once you understand that, you understand that this isn’t about “climate action” at all. It’s about climate commitment. Climate action is recycling or going vegan. Climate commitment is bigger. It’s a framework. It’s asking yourself: What can I do next? And always next.”
“If you’re raising children (and they do not have to be your children—nieces, nephews, and play cousins all count!), teach them to love the Earth and to love each other, teach them the resilience that shows up as empathy. If you’re good at taking care of people, take care of the legions of weary climate warriors. If you’re a good cook, cook. Make it as sustainable as you can within your means, but more than anything, share it, build a community around it.”
“If you are an artist, it is not your job to design the policy plans for rapid decarbonization, to decide which coal plants to shut down first, and what exactly to replace them with. We have people on that. As the writer Toni Cade Bambara once put it, the role of the artist is to “make revolution irresistible.”
~ Mary Annaïse Heglar, climate writer
→ Wired – 4 January 2020:
We Can’t Tackle Climate Change Without You
“It’s time to make a commitment to do more for the climate. Do what you’re good at, and do your best.”
Things to get you started
Eric Holthaus is an American climate scientist and journalist, who a year ago started a “publication for climate revolutionaries”, The Phoenix. He tweeted:
“Today, like every day, can be revolutionary,” says Holthaus. He gives three tips that will help you become a climate revolutionary:
1. Let others help you
Subscribe to newsletters, join groups, ask for help.
2. We each have a special skill; offer it
Being a climate person means you do what you’re good at, and you do your best. If everyone did that, it would be enough.
3. Live in accordance with your values as best you can
Each one of us should try to live in a way where we are actively creating revolutionary change every single day. There is no difference between individual action and systemic action.
→ Medium – 7 January 2021:
How to Become a Climate Revolutionary in 2021
“If you want to make climate justice part of your New Year’s resolutions, here are some things to get you started.” By Eric Holthaus
“Climate change is a product of a system of White supremacy and colonization over the past 500 years. A certain group of people felt it was justified to exploit people and land. That’s the simplest explanation of climate change.”
~ Eric Holthaus, American climate scientist and journalist
→ YES! Magazine – 28 July 2020:
How to Bring About Catastrophic Success in the Face of Climate Change
As they say at Climate Emergency Manchester:
“The best chance for rapid and fundamental change on climate action is: enormous, diverse and ever-growing pressure from ordinary people.”
~ Active Citizenship Toolkit
“The point is that for me, overall, living with less energy (and emissions) is pretty great, in lots of ways. I am extremely well-aware that our “individual actions” alone will not halt climate breakdown. I still prefer burning less, though, because I know that fossil fuel is literally deadly. Also, it does help with systems change because it helps revoke the social license of fossil fuel and fossil fuel people. There is no bright line between “individual” and “collective.””
~ Peter Kalmus, American climate scientist and blogger
→ ProPublica – 25 January 2021:
The Climate Crisis Is Worse Than You Can Imagine. Here’s What Happens If You Try.
“A climate scientist spent years trying to get people to pay attention to the disaster ahead. His wife is exhausted. His older son thinks there’s no future. And nobody but him will use the outdoor toilet he built to shrink his carbon footprint.”
Stairway to Hiatus
Over the last year, we’ve done a series of interviews in The Sustainable Hour which we labelled, the “Stairway to Hiatus” interviews. Hiatus being that place we need to go, where we – as we realise how bad it is with the damage we are doing – we stop driving, stop flying, minimise our fuel consumption, shift our gas heaters, spend more time in nature… all those things we learned from Covid19 that we can do, and which are good for us – and which we need to do even more of to get the atmosphere back in balance, back to a safe level of CO2. Risking a few displeasures before risking a complete societal collapse. Pressing the big pause button before we get too close to the waterfall, as we slide down the river in our small canoe.
There’s a great podcast out which describes how more and more of us reach that moment of realisation that, “Wow, this is not looking good. What’s going to happen to my children if we don’t get some sort of emergency action from our leaders now?”
What missing is a plan. We don’t have a climate emergency response plan. How will we solve this crisis? Our leaders won’t even admit they don’t know – they don’t even want to admit we have an emergency. But that story is changing quickly.
Some responsible politicians are ready with a plan. Like the Climate Emergency Bill, which three senators introduced in Congress in America the other day. An 18-page document, which shows you what a full-scale climate mobilization would look like. Similarly, in the United Kingdom, a Climate and Ecological Emergency Bill has been introduced and there is a petition running for it.
We can see the forest for the trees. The reality is that we have so many good plans, and if we hold all those plans together, you realise, that this is it: The plan has a name. This is what a climate revolution looks like.
You realise that revolution truly has kicked off if you take a look at what happened in the British press the just other day. Have a look at The Daily Express on 9th of February:
“The Green Industrial Revolution is our future, our heritage” – says a huge double-spread headline next to the paper’s leader, which begins with the words, “Let our crusade shine a light to a greener future.”
This is the paper which 10 years ago had a front page headline which went: “100 reasons why global warming is natural – No proof that human activity is to blame.”
One of the paper’s columists, Leo McKinstry, is a bit like an equivalent of the Australian columnist Andrew Bolt. He used to write headlines like: “Global warming is nothing more than an expensive con”. And the paper would gladly print all his nonsens. Now look at McKinstry in the paper today, where he writes: “Without bold action, the climate crisis will deepen. It is our patriotic duty to go green and rebuild Britain.”
Business shift from extractive to regenerative
In the business world, we must shift our thinking from the old “extractive” fossil era to the new era of Regeneration and Restoration.
It both how we talk about it and how we think. It is creating an economy that is regenerative and circular. And that begins with understanding what “regenerative leadership” means. What does a regenerative organisation, a regenerative business look like?
If you don’t know, we could ask says Mads Thimmer, his the CEO of InnovationLab in Denmark. He published an article about regeneretive management recently. We’ll be talking with him in The Regenerative Hour soon. He says: “Systems won’t change a thing. People will.”
Here is a translation of an inspirational article he published in the paper Mandag Morgen in January in Denmark:
is growing out of the shadow of the pandemic
A task for leaders in 2021 will be to look beyond the Teams meetings and the rapid corona transformations and look at the huge transformation that will characterise the 2020s: the transition from the extractive thinking to the regenerative. Also in the daily management, writes Mads Thimmer.
13 January 2021 – MANAGEMENT / LEADERSHIP
By Mads Thimmer, CEO and co-founder, Innovation Lab
With the announcement from Denmark to put an end to the “extractive” fossil era over the coming decades, we have at the same time started the race to phase out the whole thinking, the economy, where extraction and consumption take place in a linear motion until ending up as waste.
Few people think about how influenced our worldview, knowledge bastions, community building and management models are by the whole processing-based, reductionist and extractive economy.
From school structures to workplace hierarchies, it has been about efficient resource utilisation, extraction for one’s own gain. Therefore, it is a huge upheaval to have to adjust to the new, regenerative agenda.
We must think circularly and in completely new directions when the central question changes from “What can you achieve?” to “What can we contribute?” This also applies to the exercise of leadership.
Best publication of 2020
When you read one of 2020’s most elaborate and sensational releases, ‘Financing the circular economy’ – from the Ellen MacArthur Foundation, it’s clear why so many Latter-day Saints have checked in as climate activists – from Larry Fink, founder of the private equity fund BlackRock with $7,8 trillion in assets, to former Bank of England Director Mark Carney, who now warns that fossil assets are on the verge of becoming worthless.
The circular economy is booming with a tenfold increase in the number of investment funds with a circular or regenerative focus since 2016 – and with an average of 5 percentage points greater returns for funds with a fully or partially circular focus in the first half of 2020 compared to the other funds.
The regenerative economy is well on its way to overtaking the extractive economy and becoming the new benchmark in the world economy. Authors such as Carol Sanford, Alan Moore and Danish Laura Storm have already established the regenerative principles – now we must learn to look for them in practice.
In the regenerative economy, it is not “just” a question of a number of new technologies that one can acquire and then reorganise one’s organisation and existing thinking into.
A new kind of understanding must be built on, and the understanding must cover the entire organisation. In the management of the employees, in their contact with customers, citizens and partners as well as in all creation processes.
The regenerative organisation
The UN’s world goals are a wonderful framework – these are some considerations that you can revise your approach to, so that you can be predicted to be “compliant”. But compliance only gets us about halfway. The lovely setting is not enough.
If the ambitious climate goals are to be achieved, we must all contribute more than we consume – CO2 must be left in the ground, and we must leave a legacy that is more than just extracted and processed resources. Both as people and as organisations.
The big question is: How do you build and lead the organisation that the world needs?
Let us try to bring the grandiose arm movements closer to everyday life and reality. Figure 1 outlines a number of fundamental changes – clues to the discussion that may be the start of regenerative leadership in yourself and your organisation.
|Extractive management||Regenerative management|
|Reward system||Personal advancement||Degrees of freedom|
|Measurement method||Gain / Winning||Contribution|
|Leadership compass||Goal oriented||Principle oriented|
|HR||Based on function||Based on the person|
Freedom is the new primary motivating factor
In the regenerative economy, managers and employees are not motivated by gains and results, brought home prey and trophies. They will have the opportunity to realize their own projects – both at work and in their free time. Often the projects are regenerative and reflect the purpose of the organisation. Think of it as organisational rewilding – that is, when we let nature go ‘wild’ again and thereby create well-being, biodiversity and resilience.
Find your role – then the rest will follow
Once upon a time, planning and strategy were the keywords. But when we put a vision as ‘regeneration’ at the forefront, it is more important to understand why than how. There will be a focus on the basic organisational narrative itself. Here it is essential to understand both his own role as a leader, his role as a contributing employee – and the organisation’s role in the world. It makes it easier for everyone to make quick and right decisions.
Measure your success in shared success
What do you enable others to do? What do you bring to the party? A core concept in regenerative leadership is the legacy idea of what one leaves behind. Here, the accounts should preferably be a plus, both as an individual and as an organisation. Large companies (such as Microsoft) are obsessed with erasing CO2 footprints and becoming climate-positive, rather than just climate-neutral. You can ask the question on a daily basis: Is this what we / I want to be remembered for? It is actually very effective when the train of thought needs to go beyond the tip of the nose.
The activist wins
Talents would rather follow the convinced than the convincing. The results follow in the same way the fully formed leader, who not only explains a set of values, but who lives up to it, and who uncompromisingly translates vision into action – so that we are all inspired to do the same. Then things suddenly happen.
The road is the goal
Often the big goals and must wins are only important for the management process. Focus for the rest of us quickly becomes instrumental. Therefore, it is much more effective to focus on the means and the path to the goal. What really governs daily actions, and how do we ensure the spread of the right principles? In fact, it is more important than distant goals, which, on the contrary, can invite the principles to bend. The road is most important.
Individuals define functions, not the other way around
Management guru Gary Hamel taught us the value of taking whole people to work. Make room for personality and whole people, and put them above any category. In return, you get solution orientation, networking, dedication and natural cross-search. If you insist on the forms, the territorial struggles, the evasion of responsibility and an inexhaustible bureaucratic need to put everything into formula come. Passion must be the driving force in the regenerative processes.
Grab the invitation and forward it
Everything is connected, so do not consider your role as static – neither as a leader nor as an organisation. Get involved, invest, make demands on your surroundings! Show that you are too real now that you actually are. Then connections will show up where you had no idea. Think in life-giving ecosystems rather than in value chains that simply anchor existing structures.
Make yourself strong
Nature is the world champion in comeback strategies. It cannot be held back. The superpower of nature is diversity, and that is what you need to keep in mind when shifting your focus from efficiency to strength and resilience. Have multiple food sources and funding paths. Create teams of high variety and diversity. Take breaks. Cherish creativity. Make room for microcultures and grow growth layers. Then you are ready for the future, no matter what it looks like.
From Me to We
A book that I think can inspire those of you who’d like to help make it all happen, and aspire to become “change leaders” is: ‘From Me to We – The Five Transformational Commitments Required to Rescue the Planet, Your Organization, and Your Life’
You can read a shortened version of the book’s main points in this article:
→ Here is a video recording of a lecture Bob Doppelt held about the book in 2013:
→ Google Books preview gives a little more chunks (a total of 27 pages, but in different excerpts from the book)
→ You can also read the book’s introductory chapter on Amazon.com
→ The publisher’s page about the book
Also, there’s another book out, with the very appropriate title: “Handbook for change leaders” – we spoke with the Swedish author the other week, in The Sustainable Hour no 348.
“Climate change is pushing Western Australia, and the rest of Australia, into a future of unprecedented bushfire severity. West Australians are paying the price with blazes affecting their health, homes and livelihoods.”
~ Lesley Hughes, Climate Councillor and professor
“The health emergency of the coronavirus is inseparable from the health emergency of extinction, the health emergency of biodiversity loss, and the health emergency of the climate crisis. All of these emergencies are rooted in a mechanistic, militaristic, anthropocentric worldview that considers humans separate from—and superior to—other beings. Beings we can own, manipulate, and control. All of these emergencies are rooted in an economic model based on the illusion of limitless growth and limitless greed, which violate planetary boundaries, and destroy the integrity of ecosystems and individual species.”
~ Vandana Shiva, Director of Navdanya and of the Research Foundation for Science, Technology and Ecology, leader in the International Forum on Globalisation, and of the Slow Food Movement.
“There needs to be a picture of what we’re fighting for, not just what we’re fighting against.”
~ Eric Holthaus, American climate scientist and journalist
Climate revolutionaries unite
“Climate for all – all for climate!” Welcome to the Climate Emergency Room where we focus on green recovery, truth restoration, clarity of direction, story change in the next elections, carbon drawdown, and real, transformative and regenerative action on the climate emergency.
Are we ready to shift our mindset and choose a different future?
I am. If you are too, let’s meet. And I don’t mean physically, for now, but in The Tunnel – the digital tunnel.
We have a members’ area on climatesafety.info which is growing little by little. Its a space for figuring out how we can – and sometimes must – act as individuals and as a community in a climate emergency.
The choices we make right now matter. Our words matter. Have a positive think about how you will step in and become part of a regenerative and transformative renewal of our thinking. It’s all happening in ‘The Tunnel’ that the Covid-19 crisis created for us. What each of us need to do, is to prepare for all the action we will launch at various levels as soon as we come out on the other side.
~ Mik Aidt
Some of the feedback we’ve been getting:
the best email I’ve ever had.”
“I’m not in a position where I can nominate you up for a special award for excellent radio broadcasts or the Nobel Peace Prize, but I would do so if I had the opportunity.”
“I have heard a lot of radio but not something that radio-wise gets any better than what you and your team in Geelong and surrounding area are producing – and then, sure, you can call me biased because of the subject.”
“Your program is more important than the Queen’s or Prime Minister’s New Year’s speeches. What I can do as an “ordinary citizen” is I can write a personal letter to both our PM and the Minister for Climate and even her Royal Highness the Queen and encourage them to simply pull an hour out off their busy calendars and actually listen to your podcast about the climate revolution – not for them to evaluate your program but for them to hear where the specific questions are asked to them about whether or not they are prepared to help us all step up now – because now that train is running.”
“I would like to celebrate that you have now kicked off the Climate Revolution. Because when you do something it always tends to turn into something for real and I’m sure it does this time too. I just strengthened myself on a large glass of the good organic beetroot juice and a large shot of the powerful non-alcoholic Mojito juice that tastes much better than the Cubans are able to make their Mojitos taste. Cheers to the climate revolution now being kicked off. Cheers to your and good like-minded peoples’ work. I raise my glass and I will contribute with everything I can. Now starts Phase 1 which is not a time for arguing but to get things done in practical ways and very quickly. The climate knows no boundaries, colors, ages, skin tones or anything else. It concerns all living people and other living beings, so no one can stand passively anymore just looking at it as bystanders or letting it pass as everyone except for some few monkeys in the jungle knows that we all must do what is necessary now both today, tomorrow and the day after tomorrow, until we eventually reach a fairly safe harbour.”
“I love it, Mik! It is extremely good. Many fine points and features. And super nice the way you manage to describe the necessary shift from extractive to regenerative leadership and mindset.
I feel more and more like talking about climate revolution – because nothing less is needed.”
“I salute the expression “the climate revolution” which at the same time as it is an academic expression also has the potential to create a decisive paradigm shift in human history.”
“Great editing work and commentary too.
One thing that touched me was:
I was comforted by the section on leaders being rejected – it is what leaders experience, it’s part of the job.
I felt better for being reminded of that.
There is much to praise in what you did. I plan to listen again so I let it flow the first time.
The quality was very high in most places. The need to change most aspects of our lives.The poem ending – another highlight.
Your call to revolt – but in a positive way. A hard word to sell. I have heard some similar ideas but not expressed as well. Maybe use another word or two? “Re-creation”. “Total Re-creation”.
The Moody Blues have a great song: ‘The story in your eyes’ – I’ve always loved this and the hope it spells out. You probably know it to? if not:
“… we are part of the fire that is burning, and from the ashes we can build another day…”
Here is hoping.
The climate emergency plans emerging in the States and the UK. The focus away from extraction to use in harmony.
The focus away from overt individualism – e.g. one breath units you and me with our surrounding trees, the water the sun.
Maori, who lived and died in the same local area, talk of “I am the mountain”. Partly because they would be buried there. But it is deeper than that -we are more than ourselves, more than human.”
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Thank you to all of you who’ve been commenting and sending my feedback! Fantastic!
It certainly stands clear to me now that #TheTimeHasCome for #TheClimateRevolution
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