Podcast to council and youth leaders: Meet the climate realists



“We’ve got to be realists, if you’re going to live with the butterflies you’re going to die with the butterflies.”
~ Barnaby Joyce, The Nationals leader, warning those “that oppose fossil fuels”



Welcome to the new reality-concept in Australian politics, introduced by Barnaby Joyce: fake realism.

Genuine realists in The Sustainable Hour on 12 April 2017 are: Kim Le Cerf, Trent McCarthy and Jack Nyhof. Audio clips with Malcolm Turnbull and Alan Jones. Music, satire and poetry by Juice Media and Hugo the Poet.

An hour’s radio-podcast calling all Australian councils and the youth: We urge you to listen to these three community leaders – a mayor, a councillor and a high school student – who lead the way with inspirational climate solutions and resolutions that start with the realisation that solving this wicked problem is something we’ve got to be together about.


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“One thing is clear, if we want a world where our politicians invest in projects that create social good, rather than pollute our world, we’ve got to speak up.”
Kirsty Albion, Australian Youth Climate Coalition



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Links, excerpts and more information about what we talked about in this Sustainable Hour


On 3 April 2017, Darebin City Council decided to send a clear message to Westpac that they don’t want the council’s money to be used for a project that will wreck the climate, destroy the Great Barrier Reef and trash the lands of the Wangan and Jagalingou traditional owners.

Darebin mayor Kim Le Cerf explains in The Sustainable Hour:

Darebin mayor Kim Le Cerf talks about Darebin Council’s motions in support of the #StopAdani and the Climate Emergency Declaration campaigns.


Darebin councillor Trent McCarthy explains at The Sustainable Living Festival:

Darebin Councillor Trent McCarthy talks about the council’s Solar Saver program and his initial work on the Climate Emergency Declaration at Darebin and the North Alliance for Greenhouse Action (NAGA), exploring ways in which to talk to councillors about climate emergency.


» Transcript and more info about the interviews with Kim Le Cerf and the speech by Trent McCarthy here:
Thought leadership: How local councils crunch the climate stalemate

» Read more about the climate emergency declaration campaign







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“Of all the fantasies human beings entertain, the idea that we can go it alone is the most absurd and perhaps the most dangerous. We stand together or we fall apart.”
~ George Monbiot, writer




On realists and butterflies

Labelling themselves ‘realists’ is the latest sign that Australia’s high profile leaders have completely lost touch with current reality. Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull is busy undermining his own integrity and betraying his own values, while his deputy prime minister has caught himself up in a declining coal industry’s web of lies, claiming he is the one who knows what it means to be a realist at the same time as he spruiks the building of the world’s biggest coal mine as a “great idea”.

We’ve got to be realists. That’s right, Barnaby Joyce. But we’d like to challenge your understanding of who are the realists around here. It doesn’t sound like anyone in your government have bothered to check what the future of coal looks like in reality. And more specifically, you talk as if you have no idea about what the future of coal looks like in India, which is where the Adani coal is supposed to be shipped to, subsidised by your government.

The realists of the real and modern world have observed this for years: Coal no longer has a future. Turnbull, Joyce and their coal-mates in Queensland are building castles in sand.

As an example, take what Australian-American investor Danny Kennedy recently told The Sustainable Hour:

“In India there’s a lot of coal and it’s actually much cheaper to produce that the Adani coal which is to be exported to India. The Indian minister for power, Piyush Goyal, is on the records for saying they want to stop import of coal within three years, and meanwhile they have a thing they call the National Solar Mission which is massively building up solar in the country. They have already built 10 gigawatts in three years from a standing start – and they intend to build 100 gigawatts over the next five years, by 2022.”


» Read more on www.climatesafety.info/thesustainablehour163/#danny

The Guardian reported in December 2016:

India plans nearly 60% of electricity capacity from non-fossil fuels by 2027

“A draft 10-year energy blueprint published this week predicts that 57% of India’s total electricity capacity will come from non-fossil fuel sources by 2027. The Paris climate accord target was 40% by 2030. The forecast reflects an increase in private sector investment in Indian renewable energy projects over the past year, according to analysts.

The draft national electricity plan also indicated that no new coal-fired power stations were likely to be required to meet Indian energy needs until at least 2027, raising further doubts over the viability of Indian mining investments overseas, such as the energy company Adani’s Carmichael mine in Queensland, the largest coal mine in the world, planned to be built in Australia.

India’s “absolutely transformational” forecast was also driven by technological advancements that have led to the price of solar energy falling by 80% in the past five years.

In the 2027 forecasts, India aims to generate 275 gigawatts of total renewable energy, in addition to 72GW of hydroenergy and 15GW of nuclear energy. Nearly 100GW would come from “other zero emission” sources, with advancements in energy efficiency expected to reduce the need for capacity increases by 40GW over 10 years.”

» Read more on www.theguardian.com


“It’s a great investment in getting people out of poverty, providing electricity.”
~ Barnaby Joyce, The Nationals leader, about the Adani coal mine


Here is another thing to consider being more realistic about, Mr Deputy Prime Minister: The majority of Australians strongly disagree with you that Adani should have a $1 billon dollar concessional loan, as well as unlimited access to water and all the other benefits and subsidies you currently have in the pipeline for the Indian coal mining company. 

Even Alan Jones – who doesn’t exactly fit under Barnaby’s label of being a ‘greenie’ – fully understands how smelly and incredibly stupid, if not directly criminal, this entire Adani coal mine arrangement is.

Climate change is real and represents a real threat to Australians. So how can you, of all things, claim that ignoring this reality and the risks implied means that you are a ‘realist’? If you think people who believe we can do better than polluting and destroying the environment are ‘butterflies’, then what does that make you? A coal-moth? Or a fossil dinosaur?

In the real world, the climate emergency and taking action to mitigate it ought to be a top priority for any government, including yours. If we want a liveable future, then neither Adani’s coal mine or any other new coal mine can go ahead.


“Research published last year by four Oxford economists and scientists concluded that to keep climate change to below 2°C, no new coal plants can be built after 2017 unless they have zero emissions.”

“Climate models give a glimpse of the Australia we are creating. They show the nation’s wheatbelts, from Esperance to the Wimmera, dried to a crisp. They show the Queensland coast being thrashed more relentlessly by fiercer storms. They show a rash of summer bushfires that make Black Saturday look like candles on a cake. But they do not show the reef. By the end of the century, we will have boiled it to death. This is the Australia we are creating. Even more, it is the Australia we will have to accept if the Adani mine is approved.”
Hamish McKenzie


» The Guardian – 17 April 2017:
Adani is not just another coalmine, it is a turning point for the nation

» More about the Adani mine on www.climatesafety.info/fightagainstcoal

“The world agreed in Paris to limit global warming to ‘well under 2°C’. If we stopped emitting greenhouse gases TODAY, the world will still hit 1.7°C, according to recent work by Eeclo Rohling, ANU, and others. Failure to limit this is to disregard the rights of our children to a safe future. We can’t keep burning coal.”
Simon Kerr and Christine Parker, Music for a Warming World


Barnaby Joyce also stated that in a “more competitive world … if you go for zero risk you may as well pack up and go home”. So what is that supposed to mean? That, in his world, gambling with the future of life as we know it on this planet is supposed to be an acceptable risk? Seriously? Who is the ‘realist’ around here?

With unchecked emissions of climate pollutants, there is a 50 per cent probability for the planetary warming to cross the so-called dangerous threshold of 2°C by 2050 – and there is at least a 5 per cent probability the warming can exceed a catastrophic 6°C in about 80+ years.

For the bottom three billion in rural areas, 2°C would be enough to pose existential threats. With a 6°C warming accompanied by 10 billion population, loss of bio diversity and species extinction, we should ask: whether civilisation as we know it can be extended beyond this century?

Is there still time to avoid such catastrophes? “The answer is Yes,” says Veerabhadran Ramanathan in a presentation which was streamed live on youtube.com in March 2017. “But, we need to reinforce the technological and the market-based solutions with societal transformation. An alliance between scientists, policy makers, religious institutions and health care providers has a good chance to bring the needed transformation.”

Clearly a transformation is not what the current federal government of fake ‘realists’ in Australia, or Trump’s government in the United States, has any intentions about creating. But if we are able to make this needed transformation happen anyway, thanks to hundreds of thousands of brave and energetic community, youth and business leaders, such as those we meet in The Sustainable Hour almost every week, then the only thing we will remember fossil dinosaurs like Turnbull, Joyce and their COAL-ition government for will be their disgraceful and shameful lies.

Climate change morphing into an existential problem

Presentation by professor Veerabhadran Ramanathan streamed live on youtube.com on 10 March 2017.

» The Guardian – 11 April 2017:
Adani mine needs $1bn public funding to go ahead, Barnaby Joyce says
“Acting prime minister calls $900m concessional loan a ‘tipping point issue’ as Malcolm Turnbull meets Adani founder. Barnaby Joyce says the Carmichael coalmine in central Queensland would create 3,000 direct and 10,000 indirect jobs.”

“If you live with the dinosaurs, you will die with them…”

Within just a few hours, over 800 people had already commented the article on The Guardian’s website. Going through most of them we found one – one… – positive comment posted by someone who mentioned that a couple of his friends were now working on the Adani project and making good money there.

If you take a glance at these examples and excerpts from the comment-thread, you will get the general sentiment:


“I think Barnaby is working for Adani, not Australians.”
Stopthelibs

“How much of our billion dollars you are planning to give to Adani will somehow make its way to your bank account, Barnaby?”
JimViewer

“The whole thing makes no sense unless there is a significant flow of cash to those that are spruiking it.”
ocratato

“The most powerful politicians are always the most corrupt.”
Steven Palmer

“Barnaby, if you live with the dinosaurs, you will die with them. You do NOT have my permission to use any of my taxes to fund this lunatic project.”
Keith Price

“What ignorant misguided fools do we have as leaders now?”
Michael Scollay

“The true cost of Adani will be measured in deadly heatwaves, hurricanes, wildfires, sea level rise, major floods, extinctions, food shortages and ocean acidification, amongst other things. Whose paying for that? $1bn won’t be enough.”
limyozok

“This mine, and the political support for it, is an obscenity of biblical proportions. It is wrong on every level and Australia loses by every measure. But I have absolutely no hope that reason will prevail and that the project won’t go ahead. You have to wonder why.”
arnott12

“And because of global warming all the butterflies will be all fucking dead along with the rest of us, including beetroot.
10000 jobs my arse. Lying through his back teeth. Self interested mongrel.”
GypsyRover

“I’m going to predict that as soon as Adani receive this ‘loan’ they’ll declare bankruptcy on this unviable project and disappear back to India and the Caymans.”
ID9761679

“Why so much space dedicated to what this fossil fool says or thinks. We can’t afford more coal. It’s not in the nations interest. It’s not financially viable. It’s dead in the water. If they promise 1billion of our dollars to this fizzed they’ll hear about it at the next election.”
VickiKyr

“People will gather to create the biggest protests this nation has ever witnessed in Australia. It will make the Franklin and James Price Point campaigns seen like summer camps. It will come at them from so many fronts they will not know how to deal with it. The rail link will never be built because it will be blocked every inch of the way. People have really had enough of this crap. And yes the world lost so much colour with the passing of John Clarke and the reef.”
Louise Middleton

“Hellllllooooo Baranaby.
The banks won’t fund the rail line because they believe it will become a dead asset before it pays for itself.
A sure sign that the government shouldn’t fund it either, don’t you think?
Or are you striving to destroy your economic credentials even further?”
felix_o

“I’m not a ‘greenie’ you arrogant fake farmer, Barnaby. I’m just someone who cares about future generations. I’ve got a 10-month old little girl who will almost certainly never see the most incredible natural wonder in the entire world thanks to the short-sighted, ideological nonsense you and your government and the mineral council lobbyists you are accountable to are pedalling.
And now you want to spend my taxes on further exacerbating the problem? Fuck you.”
SirDeadman

“Heh Barnaby, tell us more about the most lavish wedding in Indian history you attended.
Did you read them a poem called ‘Fair Dinkum Love’ like you did at the wedding of your close friend shock jock Michael Smith?
Did they release any butterflies at the ceremony?
Sydney Morning Herald: “It was among the most lavish weddings in Indian history. Gina Rinehart flew three Coalition MPs to Hyderabad in a private jet, where they watched the granddaughter of her business partner marry in front of 10,000 guests. But Barnaby Joyce, Julie Bishop and Teresa Gambaro collectively claimed more than $12,000 in “overseas study” allowances to pay for flights home. Mrs Rinehart was about to clinch a $1 billion coal deal with the bride’s grandfather – G.V. Krishna Reddy, the founder of GVK, one of India’s largest energy and infrastructure companies…”
Sydney Morning Herald: “Two of Prime Minister Tony Abbott’s most high-profile ministers claimed thousands of dollars in taxpayer entitlements for attending the wedding of close friend and Sydney shock jock Michael Smith.”
SmokeyHokey

See also:

» RenewEconomy – 11 April 2017:
Coalition says wind turbines increase emissions, more coal needed




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Alan Jones on Adani’s new coal mine



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“Obviously the idea that the Australian taxpayer should help fund the destruction of a safe climate is ludicrous.”
Andrew Laird, barrister



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Malcolm Turnbull’s extraordinarily immoral and disgraceful climate policy u-turn

“Our efforts to deal with climate change have been betrayed by a lack of leadership, a political cowardice the like of which I have never seen in my lifetime before,” said the man who has now himself u-turned into the very one who betrays the youth and coming generations of Australia

In the world as it looks today, it is important to remember this: it is not climate change which is our enemy and which threatens our livelihood and our future. It is not ‘nature’, as the Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull claimed in a statement on national tv on 3 April 2017:

“Right through New South Wales and Queenland we have seen nature flinging her worst at Australians,” he said.

Wrong, Malcolm Turnbull – and you know this very well, because in 2010 in Sydney, you were the one to tell us that we had zero carbon budget remaining:

“Our response to climate change must be guided by science. The science tells us that we have already exceeded the safe upper limit for atmospheric carbon dioxide. We are as humans conducting a massive science experiment with this planet. It’s the only planet we’ve got.”
Malcolm Turnbull, 2010


Speaking at the Deakins on the Politics of Climate Change in 2010, Malcolm Turnbull also said:

“Climate change is real, it is affecting us now, and it is having a particularly severe impact on Australia. And yet, right now, we have every resource available to us to meet the challenge of climate change except for one: and that is leadership. Our efforts to deal with climate change have been betrayed by a lack of leadership, a political cowardice the like of which I have never seen in my lifetime before.”

Well, there is one coward politician for you, like so many others of them. Seven years later, after becoming the country’s leader as Prime Minister, Australians have seen Turnbull manage to turn lack of climate action leadership and political cowardice into a brand for his parliamentarian so-called “leadership”.

The bottom line is: Climate change is not a natural phenomena, so don’t think of it that way. It is man-made. Made by people like Turnbull himself.

CEOs and politicians who have decided to ignore the scientists’ warnings and bring on the climate havoc – they are the ones we must hold to account.

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Juice Media: The Great Barrier Reef [Rap News Call Out]

Posted on youtube.com in 2015


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Hugo the Poet: A message for millennials





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In other news

From our notes of this week: news stories and events we didn’t have time to mention but which we think you should know about


The Arctic meltdown

“The implications of the ice cracking up at an accelerating rate are terrifying for humanity.”
Joe Romm

» ThinkProgress – April 2017:
Arctic meltdown: Sea and land ice are cracking up at a record pace
“The images from the Arctic ice death spiral are haunting. The impacts will be terrifying.”

“As the sea ice disappears and Arctic warming speeds up, that causes faster melting of the land-based Greenland ice sheet, which in turn causes faster sea level rise. A recent study found that Greenland ice mass loss has tripled since 1997.”


» The Guardian – 14 April 2017:
New study shows worrisome signs for Greenland ice
“Greenland ice is melting fast, and could potentially cause many meters of sea level rise”

» Scientific American – 7 April 2017:
The Arctic Ocean Is Becoming More Like the Atlantic Ocean
“The changes are already visible in the region, which has had largely ice-free summers since 2011”



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The loss of coral reefs

» The Guardian – 12 April 2017:
Loss of coral reefs caused by rising sea temperatures could cost $1tn globally
“Loss of Great Barrier Reef alone could cost north Queensland 1m visitors a year, imperilling 10,000 jobs and draining $1bn from economy”










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Thinking beyond the immediate

Ari Wallach shares three tactics for thinking beyond the immediate.

We are facing huge problems in the world today, civilizational-scale problems. However, we cannot solve them using short-term thinking. If we want to move forward into a different future, we must adopt what applied futurist and innovation strategist Ari Wallach calls the ‘longpath’.

Ari Wallach is CEO of New York City based Synthesis Corp. and is Fast Company’s expert on emergent macro-trends in business and culture. Combining a grasp of new technology and business models with a broader understanding of social, political, economic, and demographic transformations, Wallach helps leaders understand, and shape, the future — of their organizations, their industries, and the world.

» See the TEDx-talk on www.ted.com



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Acknowledgement

We at The Sustainable Hour would like to pay our respect to the traditional custodians of the land on which we are broadcasting, the Wathaurong People, and pay our respect to their elders, past, present and future.

The traditional owners lived in harmony with the environment and with the climate for hundreds of generations. It is not clear – yet – that as European settlers we have demonstrated that we can live in harmony for hundreds of generations, but it is clear that we can learn from the indigenous, traditional owners of this land.

When we talk about the future, it means extending our respect to those children not yet born, the generations of the future – remembering the old saying that…



The decisions currently being made around Australia to ignore climate change are being made by those who won’t be around by the time the worst effects hit home. How utterly disgusting, disrespectful and unfair is that?




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One comment

  1. Oh Mik! What a fantastic Sustainable Hour for April 12. I listened to it as a podcast while walking my dog and I just love your passion, and the depth and breadth of materials you share. I now have even more ideas for a poster for the March for Science this Saturday in Brisbane and renewed enthusiasm for tackling our local council on climate change issues! Thank you, thank you, thank you!

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